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Richard Auty, Woodkirk |
Posted by: Admin on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 08:23 PM
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Here's an interesting email conversation that connects a number of Auty's in my database to a living person.
Hi Kathryn,
That was easy - the first place I looked is your grandfather and great-grandfather. Here is your family while in Dewsbury and even more importantly, we have your great-grandfather from West Ardsley.
Dwelling Cemetery Rd
Census Place Dewsbury, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342099
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4561 / 10
Page Number 13
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Ben AUTY Head born 1839 M Male 42 West Ardsley, York, England Stone Mason
Emm AUTY Wife born 1840 M Female 41 Wakefield, York, England
Herbert AUTY Son 1866 Male 15 Dewsbury, York, England Stone Mason
Jane AUTY Dau 1873 Female 8 Dewsbury, York, England
John AUTY Son 1876 Male 5 Todmorden, York, England
Lowther AUTY Son 1878 Male 3 Todmorden, York, England
George AUTY Son 1880 Male 8 m Dewsbury, York, England
The Lowther is probably how your father ended up Luther. We may have to double check this, but I'm pretty sure that this is your family.
You are especially lucky that you're family is from West Ardsley and Wakefield. This is an area where I have researched almost every Auty who ever lived there as my own family is from both of these towns. You could be from my own line.
I've copied John Blake as he has researched the Auty name extensively in Dewsbury and would likely have more info than me. As I look into your earlier message from the 1901 census, I can see that they named a boy Benjamin, most likely after the grandfather. We'll have to try and confirm that your family moved from Dewsbury to Lancashire. I don't think it's that far.
I will get to work on your Benjamin Auty. This information was provided to me by my Uncle Russell who presently lives in England. While in Woodkirk, he transcribed all the Auty's down to see if we are connected. However, I don't think I can prove a connection to this Auty line. It's most likely that we are related, but no firm proof exists. However, you are connected to one of the most documented Auty Lines, starting with Richard Auty who married Sarah Attock. Our family was in this area at this time, however I have not proven that Richard Auty is related to my most distant relative, Joshua Auty who married Martha Auty in 1715 in Hemsworth.
The following is taken from the Auty Family book 1685 - 2005, which was written by my Uncle Russell Auty.
The earliest that I found the Auty Family was in Hague Moor in 1684. This was recorded in St. Marys Church Register, Woodkirk. Reference D/108/2 Yorkshire Archives, Wakefield, Yorkshire. We started with Woodkirk because that is where our family was traced to. You may find earlier dates elsewhere. Woodkirk, which is in Yorkshire about 7 miles from Wakefield and 3 miles from Dewsbury.
We start our story with Richardi Auitt and Sarah Attock (I.G.I. records) with the birth of Richardi os Lelius (son of) Richardi Auitt about 1659 (Woodkirk Church Ref. D108/2.). The following search is from the Saint Marys Parish Church, Woodkirk. Ref. D108/2 Yorkshire Archives, Wakefield, Yorkshire. All entries were written in Latin up to 1720. Auty was spelt Auitt . Richardi Auitt born 1658 (I.G.I.) married a woman called Hannah sometime around 1683. They had a son named which was baptised December 18th, 1684 at 10 months of age. Unfortunately, there was no name entered in the files. I had checked this out since I original found the family. Richardi and Hannah had a son Gulielmus Auitt, male, baptised April 24th, 1687 as per I.G.I. Johann os Filius (son of) Richardi Auitt was baptised Octobris 3rd, 1689 at the age of 3 months old. Ref D108/2 St. Marys Parish Church Records, Woodkirk held in the Wakefield Record Office. This information was also found in original Church Records date from 1652 to 1717, which I was able to look at on June 23rd., 2005 Richardi os Lelius (son of) Richardi Auitt was baptised May 12th, 1697 at the age of 3 months. Sahara Lliliu os (Daughter of) Richardi Auitt was baptised July 6th, 1701 at 6 months. Richardi Auitt was a miner like many in the family. Richardi Auitt Snr. Died August 4th, 1713 and was buried at Saint Marys Church. Hannah, wife of Richardi Auitt deceased on January 30th, 1715. Reference D/108/2 Saint Marys Register held by Wakefield Record Office. With the exception of the word Auitt (Auty) the rest was hard to understand, unless you knew Latin. Where I wasnt sure, I asked one of the Archivists what the words meant. The Church of England until around 1720 mainly used Latin though I did find English was used in other parishes in Yorkshire. I found later in Edmonton, Middlesex that they started using English in the church, one hundred years earlier 1620. Auitt (Auty) as with Richardi Auitt 1684, was not related as far as we know of at this present time. On my visit to Wakefield Achieves June 23rd. 2005 were I was able to look at the original book, I found the spelling of Auty, where as on the finch, it was spelt as Auitt. (Latin)
As I am one generation out, the following family maybe connected to the above.
John Auty born 1720 Woodkirk,East Ardsley
John Auty married Ann Gibson July 1, 1747 Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire, England.
Children of John Auty.
Sarah Auty daughter of John Auty and Ann baptised May 1, 1748 Woodkirk, East Ardsley, Yorkshire.
Edward Auty son of John and Ann Gibson born 1758 c
Edward (Edwood) married Sarah Womersby April 21,1783 Woodkirk, Yorkshire,England
Children of Edward Auty
Joseph Awty Born January 29, 1784, Baptised February 24, 1784 Beggarenton, Woodkirk, West Ardsley,Yorkshire
Joseph Awty age 21 married Ann Takel December 22, 1805,Woodkirk,Yorkshire.
Samuel Awty son of Joseph Born January 7, 1810. Baptised March 11,1810. Woodkirk, Yorkshire, England.
Edward Awty Born November 30, 1787, Baptised December 23, 1787 Beggarenton, Woodkirk, Yorkshire,England.
John Awty Baptised February 16,1790 Hague Moor, Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire.
George Awty Baptised July 22,1792, Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire,England.
George Awty son of Edward Awty (Auty) married Jane Massey February 25, 1816 Woodkirk,Yorkshire,
Children of George Auty and Jane Massey (Mafsey)
John Auty son of George. Baptised July 5, 1810 Woodkirk, Yorkshire , England
Joseph Auty son of George Baptised December 25, 1820 Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire.
James Auty born 1822, Baptised February 22,1824 (I.G.I.) Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire, England.
Solomon Auty Baptised December 4,1836 Woodkirk, Yorkshire,England.
Ben Auty Born February 14,1837, Baptised March 17,1839 (I.G.I) Woodkirk , West Ardsley, Yorkshire.
Samuel Auty Baptised March 8, 1846, Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire, England (I.G.I.)
Samuel Auty son of George Auty married Mary Ann about 1866 Woodkirk, West Ardsley (Ref. I.G.I) Samuel was a farmer of 16 Acres of Land. Census 1881
Children of Samuel Auty and Mary Ann
Ada Auty daughter of Samuel Auty b. 1866 Woodkirk, Yorkshire. At the age of 15 Ada was a Cloth Weaver. Census 1881
Ada Auty married William Fenton of Woodkirk Ref. John Fenton (relative). They had a son William Fenton b.1898 Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire England
Jesse Auty son of Samuel Auty and Mary Ann Baptised September 29, 1867 Woodkirk, Yorkshire, England.
Clara Auty daughter of Samuel Auty and Ann Baptised November 5, 1871 Woodkirk,
Rowland Auty son of Samuel Auty and Ann Born September 14,1873, baptised September 23, 1873, Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire. England.
Rowland Auty died February 29, 1968 . This information was taken from a bible presented to Mrs. R. Auty for good attendance at Tingley Wesleyan Church March 31, 1929.
Emma Auty daughter of Samuel Auty and Ann Born September 7 1874. This information was taken from a bible presented to Mrs. R. Auty for good attendance at Tingley Wesleyan Church March 31, 1929.
Emma Auty died August 8, 1959. This information was taken from a bible presented to Mrs. R. Auty for good attendance at Tingley Wesleyan Church March 31, 1929.
Oliver Auty Son of Samuel Auty and Ann baptised December 5, 1875 Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire, England
Jane Ellen Auty Daugther of Samuel Auty and Ann baptised May 5, 1878 Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire, England.
Joseph Auty Son of Samuel Auty and Ann baptised September 21, 1879 Woodkirk
Alfred Auty Son of Samuel Auty and Ann baptised September 21, 1879 Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire, England.
Lance Auty Son of Samuel Auty and Ann baptised May 2, 1880 Woodkirk,West Ardsley, Yorkshire England.
Arthur Auty Son of Samuel Auty and Ann baptised August 13, 1882, Woodkirk, WestArdsley, Yorkshire, England.
Harry Auty Son of Samuel Auty and Ann baptised April 10, 1886 Woodkirk, Yorkshire, England.
Charles Auty baptised June 2, 1862 Woodkirk, West Ardsley,Yorkshire
Charles Auty married Jane about 1885 (I.G.I)
Children of Charles Auty and Jane
James Herbert Auty son of Charles Auty and Jane, baptised August 29,1886 Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorksire, England
Isabel Auty daughter of Charles Auty and Jane baptised May 13,1888 Woodkirk.
Muriel Auty daughter of Charles Auty and Jane baptised September 21, 1890, Woodkirk,West t Ardsley, Yorkshire, England.
Bertha Auty daughter of Charles Auty and Jane baptised November 27, 1892 Woodkirk, West Ardsley, Yorkshire. England.
Elsie Auty daughter of Charles Auty and Jane baptised February 16,1896
Elsie Auty died December 5,1942. . This information was taken from a bible presented to Mrs. R. Auty for good attendance at Tingley Wesleyan Church March 31, 1929.
Births . This information was taken from a bible presented to Mrs. R. Auty for good attendance at Tingley Wesleyan Church March 31, 1929.
Connie Auty born February 17, 1908, Yorkshire, England.
Winnie Auty born April 19,1906 Yorkshire, England.
Marjorie Auty born April 6, 1918 Yorkshire, Englanf.
Marriages . This information was taken from a bible presented to Mrs. R. Auty for good attendance at Tingley Wesleyan Church March 31, 1929.
Harry Leslie Auty married Noverber 29,1931. No mention of who he married.
John Alfred Auty married May 22, 1948 Yorkshire, England.
Tingley is in Yorkshire.
So, this is quite interesting. You are connected to a well documented Auty Line, that is just a few miles from the origins of my own family.
What I would suggest we do is start a compiled family line for you. I have some family tree software which will allow me to organize all of this info into a GEDCOM file which is easier to navigate and understand the family lines.
This could take me a while, but any additional info you send me, I'll put in there for you.
Talk to you soon,
Brian
Kathryn Nall wrote:
> Hi Brian, my cousin Joy, (2nd or 3rd!), on my mothers side has managed to find the following. She is right, Herbert was my grandfathers name I am sure, and he married Ann White, it seems he had a brother called Luther which is the info you found, it is quite exciting when bits seem to fit together. Hope this is of interest. My cousin is herself into family history investigation but I hadn't like to trouble her about me Auty relatives.
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 4:39 PM
> Subject: Fw: Auty Help for research!!
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>> Hi Kathryn,
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>> Since I managed to get the 1900 birth of Luther AUTY for you I can now update you with this
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>> From the Birth details I sent earlier this afternoon this is a follow up.
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>> 1901 Census
>> 6 Lawson Street,
>> Southport
>> Herbert Auty 35 Stonemason b. Dewsbury, Yorkshire
>> Ann Auty 36 wife b. Southport, Lancs
>> Benjamin Auty 7 son b. Southport, Lancs
>> Elsie Auty 4 dau b. Bolton, Lancs
>> Luther Auty 8 months son b. Southport, Lancs
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>> Herbert Auty also had a brother named Luther Auty and will now get as much information collated together as I can for you and Brian. It looks as though Herbert married an Ann WHITE and will let you have the Register Office details when I email again soon.
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>> Love Joy
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>> At 14:14 03/12/2006 +0000, you wrote:
>>> Hi Joy and John,
>>> I decided to try and find out a bit more about my Dad's family and went on to the ancestry site. Brian Auty is the help person and you can see his reply to me below. Unfortunately I have lost my fathers birth certificate which matthew's cousin Pat got for me several years aga I can't remember but am pretty sure it was not Luther (see below) although he had also moved from Yorks and was a stonemason. All I want at the moment is my grandfathers first name and then I will try to get another birth certificate. The info I gave is at the very end of email.
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>>> Kathryn
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>>> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Auty
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>>> Hi Kathryn,
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>>> I am always interested in Autys, so please don't hesitate to let me help you. Finding family without experience is difficult when you haven't done this before.
>>>
>>> Luther Auty is a very unusual Auty name. In 1901, there was a census and the only 2 Luther Autys on there was your father and someone else in the same town named Luther Auty who was 23 years old. (if I want more info I have to pay, but I found this out for free).
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>>> So it is very possible that your grandfather was also Luther Auty who was 23 years old in 1901, so that means he was born in 1878. It's interesting that this elder Luther wasn't on the 1881 census.
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>>> Here's the info I found:
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>>> View Name Age Where born Administrative county Civil parish Occupation
>>> Luther Auty 0 Lanc Southport Lancashire Southport
>>> Luther Auty 23 Yorks Todmorden Lancashire Lytham Stone Mason
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>>> Note this elder Luther was a stone mason.
>>>
>>> Your father is the Luther Auty whose age is 0 - that means less than 1 year old. We can't assume that these 2 Luthers are related. So I've done a quick search for the older Luther and here's what comes up.
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>>> # ID: I8299
>>> # Name: Luther AUTY
>>> # Sex: M
>>> # Birth: ABT 1878 in Todmorden, Yorkshire
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>>> Marriage 1 Betty RUKIN b: 27 DEC 1879 in Oldham, Lancashire
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>>> * Married: JUN 1900 in Fylde, Lancashire
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>>> Children
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>>> 1. Has No Children Emma AUTY
>>> 2. Has No Children Hilda AUTY
>>> 3. Has No Children Betty R AUTY b: ABT 1900 in Lytham, Lancashire
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>>> So it doesn't look like this older Luther is related. So we have focus just on your father for now.
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>>> I would like to share this information with some other Auty researchers to see if they have anything. So please let me know if this is OK to post to the Auty List and we'll see if someone can help us.
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>>> Thanks, Brian
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>>>
>>> Kathryn Nall wrote:
>>>> If the following info about my family is of any interest then here it is and maybe one day I can find out how it links up.
>>>> My father was Luther Auty born August 2nd 1900 Southport Lancs, his mother was Ann White and I can't remember the name of his father but may have it somewhere. Both his parents died in about 1906.For much of his life he lived in Scarisbrick lancs. Luther died in 1968 in Devon.
>>>> My father had 2 brothers Walter (died age 6 ish), Ben, and sister Elsie all Auty's, he had a cousin Richard Auty who was a famous rugby player (in 1950's??? or earlier) but I know no more than that.
>>>> I was born in 1953, Kathryn Auty in Macclesfield. There are no surviving issue of Ben or Elsie.
>>>> I think there were other cousins of my fathers in Lancashire, 2 were violin teachers but never met them and do not know their names.
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>>>> I have plenty of info on my mothers side and have a relative who has done a lot of research there but my Auty side of the family seems lost in the mists of time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Kathryn (nee Auty)
>>>>> Kathryn Nall wrote:
>>>>>> Hi , I am interested in finding out more about the Auty family tree. My father was Luther Auty born on 2nd August 1900, all my known Auty relatives are now deceased but I have no information on his cousins or wider family members.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>> Kathryn Nall (nee Auty)
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